Sachiko Takeuchi: Off the Record

Honey & Honey x Tokyo Wrestling March 2007


Sachiko Takeuchi

6. Because this is the way I am!

KN:
Personally, I can see myself with a transgender woman.

K:
What's interesting is that there's the stereotype that transgender women only go for men, but many go for women too. There are MtF lesbians.

T:
Yes, they sometimes come to events and ask if they’re allowed to enter. However, the people running the event seem like they don't know what to do - since men are not allowed into lesbian events here. Clearly, the women have transitioned to female, but many spaces feel the need to post signs saying, "We refuse entry to anyone legally registered as a man." It's a shame.

K:
I think many people I know would go for an FtM, but not as many for an MtF.

T:
I don't think I could see myself with one.

K:
Me neither...just because they're too feminine for me!

T:
Right.

K:
For me, I just don't go for feminine people, and then on top of that, she would have been raised a man.

T:
That's true.

H:
That's pretty far from your type then.

K:
Yes (laughs).

T:
Mine too. Once I went to a bar with lots of MtFs and I remember thinking at the time that no one at the bar really struck me.

K:
I've had that too (laughs). There are a lot of people in the world so it's hard to say for sure, but I get the feeling that I wouldn't be sexually attracted by a transgender woman. How about you Kanai?

KN:
I'd go for it!

K:
I thought so! Because you love girly women! (laughs)

T:
So I guess the only difference here is what type we're attracted to.

K:
Sexuality is so interesting, isn't it? (laughs) What about you? Would you date a transwoman?

H:
Well, I could be friends, but that’s all. I'd see her as a woman, probably.

T:
Oh, yes. Friends. I guess even if she had her sex legally changed, and had all the surgery, I don't think I could develop those kinds of feelings for her. Especially since, chances are, she wouldn't be very boyish (laughs).

K:
If she were though, that would be great! Just my type maybe!

H:
I'd love to see that (laughs).

K:
But, you know, when I tell my straight friends that I like boyish girls, usually they'll just say right back, "Well then, you like guys."

T:
Yes, I get that a lot too!

K:
Yeah, people will tell me that all the time, so I just explain to them that, "Well, no matter how boyish she is, once she's taken everything off - she's a woman" (laughs).

T:
Yes! I've explained it that way myself. I tell them, "The moment you undress is still key" (laughs).

K:
That's a very compelling way of putting it (laughs).

T:
Yeah, people then just kind of apologize (laughs). But actually I have this one very close friend named Mai-she appears in my manga-and she really is unable to comprehend where I'm coming from. She'll always be asking me, "Why this?" and "Why that?" and I just have to say, "Because this is the way I am!" (laughs) She's terrific for caricaturing and putting in my books. Anyway, she's the one that once said, "If you like them boyish, why don't you like boys?" So I said, "Well, what you get when you undress is important too" (laughs). And then she asked, "Well, then where is the line?" We ended up having a really interesting, long conversation about that.



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