2. The queer media
-- It's clear that you both get along very well. What first impressions did you have of each other when you first met?
M: We really liked each other. I mean, we actually dated, though we never really talk about that much.
-- Oh, I was actually wondering about that!
M: We don’t really talk about it with most of the media. A lot of the press we talk to is not queer or gay-oriented. Generally, I don't want some straight white guy asking me about my sexuality.
B: It's not about our music.
-- Right. But you're out, correct?
M: Yes. We did something for Out magazine, for one. But, for the most part, I don't feel that it's necessary to discuss these things with non-queer press. You know what I'm saying?
We're there to discuss the music we’ve made. That’s what we do and it’s the most important thing. The fact is that there are some people who I don't want to have that dialogue with, especially if they don't understand what it's like to be queer or gay.
B: Even as a woman in music, it's really hard to talk about feminism or just women playing music or making art.
-- Have guys directly asked you about your sexuality?
M: Yes. Some guys have been like, "You two used to date each other."
B: Oh, yeah. The Village Voice in New York, they mentioned it once.
M: I just told them, "We're here to talk about music!"
B: In that case, it was way too off the subject. It seemed fetishistic.
M: There is this one really big indie-music blog in the States and they reviewed our album. Well, when they were talking about "In Your Lines", they just flat-out said, "I don't know, maybe they're talking about each other. They used to go out together."
B: He outright said that one of the songs from our record was about our relationship, and he doesn't know that. We never said that!
-- Are you okay to talk about your sexuality with queer media?
M: Yeah, totally.
M: Because the queer media approaches the subject from an informed perspective.
B: The motivation behind their asking is different...
M: Yeah, the dialogue is open. Our language and our understanding are of the same vein. Like when we were talking to the guy at Pitchfork, for example...
B: Oh, yeah. (laughs)
-- What is Pitchfork?
M: It’s that same music blog. They pretty much consist of all white indie-rock news and, well, I don't want to ever talk about my sexuality with them (laughs).
B: That review they did of our album seemed totally off-subject. It felt like we were being exposed. It was weird. It felt way out of line, especially considering that this is a publication that doesn't really address topics like that. Ever. It felt like they were making fun of us. I mean, the news industry is so conservative! (laughs)
--So when you came out, was it an issue? Was there anything you had to pay particular attention to?
M: It wasn't an issue. We have publicists for Europe and the United States and we made it clear to them all that we don’t want our sexuality to be a topic of dialogue when certain indie-rock magazines are reviewing us. Personally, I don't want to have a dialogue about my sexuality with someone who has no idea what it's like to be queer.
B: With mainstream media, we talk about music--and with queer media we are open to talking more privately.
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