5. Queer-based collaboration
-- Is there any city where you'd like to perform?
M&B: Here in Tokyo! Yeah!
B: Tokyo is my big dream. It was at the top of my list!
M: Me too! I can't believe we're here. My god, it's the furthest place away from home.
B: I've never been here before, but culturally I love Japan! (laughs)
-- What attracts you to Japan so much?
B: The art and culture that I've experienced from afar...
M: Maybe Butoh and stuff...
B: ...and the language too.
B: Drum machines! Japan is home of the drum machine.
M: Synthesizers. Yeah. There are so many reasons.
-- I can see that you are really excited to be here!
M: Yeah, I know. It's awesome--we don't want to leave! (laughs)
B： We're trying to figure out how we can stay. We’d love to just stay!
-- One of your songs was released on a compilation CD put out by the magazine Girls Like Us (GLU)--how did that happen?
M: Well, Jessica Gysel from GLU comes to New York quite a lot and I met her there. She was dating Sophie Mörner...
-- Ahh, she’s the one who publishes GLU and does the photography magazine Capri-cious! She’s a great photographer as well.
B: Yes. She's a good friend of mine...She's awesome. She has a gallery in Brooklyn and does really good stuff. So, yeah, that's how I met Jessica. She heard our song "Sinister Militia" and asked if she could use it in the compilation. We were like, "Yeah, of COURSE!"
-- So would you say that you like taking on collaborations in queer culture, in addition to your mainstream stuff? Is it important to you to be involved in the queer scene?
M: Yes. I'm always really eager to talk about being queer with the queer press. I'm out, I'm a lesbian. Like I said, I'm generally not going to sit down and have a conversation with a straight white guy about my being a lesbian.
B: Yeah! We play with other queer bands and stuff. It doesn't happen that often just because there aren't that many, but we played with No Bra and some others.
-- When I went to see your show at Club Unit in Daikanyama I noticed that, probably because No Age was headlining, most of the audience was straight guys. In general, what kind of audiences do you attract?
M: In Europe there’s definitely a mix of people--and a large queer audience. In the U.K. it's mostly straight guys. In the U.S., New York is the craziest--and it's just really queer. There we’ve got the coolest crew of people, like teenage black guys and...
B: ...a lot of gay people...
M: But once you leave New York City and you play around the rest of the country, it's not like that at all. It's all straight, white guys and either they hate us or they love us.
-- Why do you think some straight guys might not like you?
M: It seems like they think we're threatening.
B: We won't go out on a date with them. (laughs)
M: It's really misogynist.
-- It does happen. Bu the way, do you watch The L Word?
M: Uh, YEAH!
B: It's the trashiest, most ridiculous soap opera ever. (laughs) But it's also amazing because, for the first time, we're seeing lesbians and they are complex characters.
M: They're not making excuses.
B: Yeah, they're not apologizing for being lesbians. They have complexity, they have emotions, they're human. So I love it!
-- Who’s your favorite character?
M: I really like Bette... (Busy laughs)
-- We took Jennifer Beals out to a lesbian bar in Nichome one night!
M: Wow! That’s amazing!! She's not gay though, right?!? Oh, God I love her. It's too bad. She's so HOT.
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